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Tuesday, 2 July 2013

Carmarthenshire Pugs??

What Pug moths are we likely to see in Carmarthenshire? It would be nice to eliminate any we won't see or would be unlikely to see just to help a little with the ID of any we catch.


  1. I agree, Colin, but I suspect that the only person who can supply the information is Jon, based upon the records of recent years, and it doesn't sound as though that's likely to happen. Regarding Pug identification, 'The Pugs of Lancashire' which Ian provided a link to in his email of June 22nd looks like being quite helpful.

  2. I suggest refering to Jon`s list in his Annual Report of 2006...perhaps then sifting through the newsletters 2006 onwards, which will give any significant pug records.

  3. PS...if anyone wants me to email [or `re-email`] a copy of the Pugs of Lancs, let me know. I`ve had a chance since emailing it to some of you recently to have a more careful look through it, and it is really good and user-friendly. The pugs are listed, described and illustrated in the approx order that they appear in the year, and `Peterson-style` pointers show the salient features.

  4. One thing to remember is that many Pugs are very habitat- or host-specific although some do wander. You're not going to get Plain Pug away from Saltmarsh or Haworth's Pug away from Clematis stands. Have a think about what plants you may have near home: is there any Goldenrod or Larch within a couple of hundred metres?

    There are a few that can be discounted straight away because they're only English, like Goosefoot and Scarce Pugs. I guess it might be worth putting a little X next to them in your book. The majority of British species do occur in Carms and some of them are absolute sods to ID: genitalia checking is needed in several cases.

    Be prepared to bin many of the Pugs you catch, at least until you're really up to speed, and never try doing worn individuals as you'll just end up with errors. Please don't stick down a guess, even if it's "probably just a Common".

    Here in Brechfa I've had the following 16 species, with number of records of each in brackets:
    Bleached Pug 1
    Brindled Pug 81
    Common Pug 2
    Double-striped Pug 6
    Dwarf Pug 10
    Foxglove Pug 6
    Golden-rod Pug 1
    Green Pug 3
    Grey Pug 7
    Mottled Pug 3
    Narrow-winged Pug 1
    Satyr Pug 1
    Slender Pug 4
    V-Pug 24
    White-spotted Pug 5
    Wormwood Pug 3
    Grand Total 158

    The county list has 39 species (ie 23 I haven't had in Brechfa!). Those that I think are uncommon are marked ! and those which are really distinctive are marked *.
    !Ash Pug
    !Bilberry Pug
    !Bleached Pug*
    !Bordered Pug*
    Brindled Pug
    !Cloaked Pug
    Common Pug
    Currant Pug
    Double-striped Pug*
    Dwarf Pug
    Foxglove Pug*
    Freyer's Pug*
    Golden-rod Pug
    Green Pug*
    Grey Pug
    !Haworth's Pug
    !Juniper Pug
    Larch Pug
    Lime-speck Pug*
    Ling Pug
    !Marsh Pug
    Mottled Pug
    Narrow-winged Pug*
    !Netted Pug*
    Oak-tree Pug
    !Ochreous Pug
    !Plain Pug*
    !Satyr Pug
    !Shaded Pug
    Slender Pug
    !Sloe Pug
    Tawny Speckled Pug*
    !Thyme Pug
    !Toadflax Pug
    Triple-spotted Pug
    !Valerian Pug
    White-spotted Pug
    Wormwood Pug

    Sooner or later someone will catch Dentated Pug at Ffrwd Fen - plenty of Yellow Loosestrife there!

    Hope that helps a little.

  5. Many thanks Sam but thought/hoped the list may have been smaller!!